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20楼  发表于: 2007-03-04   

好像地位很高的感觉..

 

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21楼  发表于: 2007-03-05   
白菜和桐桐最近在史密斯基金会的网页上获取图片良多,有人质疑这些图片所注资料的真实性,白菜和桐桐对此不负任何责任,稽古右文论坛只负责尽力的为大家收集资料(一如既往地,我们会注明资料来源).对这些肖像画的真伪有疑问的朋友请与史密斯基金会的负责人联系。他们负责采购,鉴定,接受捐献等等博物馆日常工作.您的真知灼见在那里会取得回应.

本版已经多次贴过史密斯基金会官方网的主页:

http://www.si.edu/

史密斯基金会的电子资料库许多北美常青藤大学都与之资源共享,就读美国的各位也可以通过学校的服务器搜索这些资源。

今天周日白菜比较有时间,为方便大家,大致翻译该图在史密斯基金会资料库中的介绍。


Portrait of a Lady-in-Waiting to Empress
一位皇后的侍妇.
1644-1911
1644年至1911年
Qing dynasty
清朝
Ink and colors on silk
丝绢上的墨与色
H: 188.9 W: 98.4 cm
高188.9厘米,宽:98.4cm
China
中国
Purchase -- Smithsonian Collections Acquisition Program, and partial gift of Richard G. Pritzlaff, S1991.7

购买——史密斯藏品收购计划,理查德·G·普利策拉夫非完全捐赠礼物(白菜注:partial,意味部分的,非完全的,普利策拉夫先生也许收取了一定的酬谢)。

The donor believes that this painting was a portrait of Sumalagu the lady in waiting to the Empress Xiaozhuang.

捐赠者(白菜按:即rgp)认为这副画为孝庄皇后的侍女苏麻喇姑.

(苏麻喇姑的资料如上一楼桐桐所录,省略不述.)

(孝庄皇后的资料与苏麻喇的资料与英文维基百科基本相同,略略不录)

(捐献者rgp的资料省略不录,有兴趣的朋友请自行google搜索.)

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学术重在交流,若大家与各大博物馆沟通后,对这些画像的真伪达成共识,请到稽古来与我们分享您的好消息哦~不胜荣幸!!!

 

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22楼  发表于: 2007-03-05   
附:http://www.friendsofmd.org/data/2005report.pdf

2005年巴尔的摩马利兰之友基金会年度财务报告:其中有rpg先生的名字,大家可以通过该基金会与rpg先生本人联系。



附:存于资料库中的一篇关于捐献者rpg的文章,文章来自《古董》杂志2001年8月刊,对他的捐赠过程有兴趣的朋友可以阅读一下。


Chinese portraiture - antiques - Brief Article
Magazine Antiques,  August, 2001  by Allison Eckardt Ledes



A byzantine tale lies behind the current exhibition of ancestral Chinese portraits on view at the Arthur M. Sackler Gallery in Washington, D.C. through September 9. The players are Richard G. Pritzlaff, an uncouth and irascible New Mexican rancher; H. Ross Perot, the outspoken Texas tycoon; Wu Lai-shi, an esteemed and elusive Peking art dealer; and Jan Stuart, the tenacious and intelligent associate curator of Chinese art at the Sackler Gallery. The Maltese falcon in this case was eighty-five hauntingly beautiful Chinese ancestor portraits and related artifacts.

In 1989 Mr. Pritzlaff telephoned the Sackler Gallery pointedly deriding the curatorial profession, but nonetheless offering his collection of more than one hundred paintings and other objects to the museum. He described the collection immodestly as one that would "forever change American opinion of Chinese art." Then eighty-seven years old, Pritzlaff was concerned about the future of his collection, the seed of which was planted in 1937 when he traveled to China and encountered the art dealer Wu. The latter had a knack for persuading descendants of Chinese nobles to part with their inherited treasures, including rare paintings and porcelains with imperial provenances. Chief among the collection were Chinese ancestral portraits, then a stepchild of Chinese art in which landscape paintings were ranked at the top of the artistic hierarchy.

In the early 1940s, changes in Chinese political tides, Wu's advancing age (he died around 1948), and impoverishment, caused Wu to send Pritzlaff a cache of paintings, which he hoped the collector would sell on his behalf. Instead, Pritzlaff held on to them, sending Wu as much money as he could.
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By 1970 Pritzlaff was looking for ways to promote what he had, and he loaned some of his paintings to the Denver Art Museum. Negotiations for the transfer of the collection to that museum eventually came to naught. Enter Ross Perot, who in the mid-1980s was horse shopping with friends at Pritzlaff's ranch. There he was swept away by the Chinese collection, and after a return trip he purchased the majority of it with the intention of building a museum to house it. When that dream fell through, Pritzlaff became so irate that in 1987 he bought back his collection.

In 1990, following Pritzlaff's phone call, Stuart and a colleague traveled to the collector's adobe house in Sapello, New Mexico, which proved to be as idiosyncratic as its owner, who had designed it. For example, when he deemed the sunlight too harsh, Pritzlaff dug a hole in the floor and planted trees to form a natural screen, because he loathed shutters and curtains. Although the house was elegant, Stuart recalled that it had suffered from neglect and had holes in the roof. Paintings were installed in glass-fronted niches in the adobe walls on the exterior of the house under the shade of the verandah, while others were similarly installed in the interior or rolled up and placed in storage.

Stuart persevered, overcoming too many obstacles to recount here, and the collection eventually arrived at the Sackler Gallery where thirty-eight of Pritzlaffs ancestral portraits form the core of an exhibition entitled Worshiping the Ancestors: Chinese Commemorative Portraits. The exhibition has been made possible by a grant from Fidelity Investments through the Fidelity Foundation (which also donated funds to restore many of the works). The show not only includes ancestral portraits dating from 1451 to 1943, but also textiles, furniture, and other objects, many of them of the type that appear in the portraits.

Chinese rites of ancestor worship include offerings (among them food and incense) made to the deceased in the hope that the dead will bestow good fortune and prosperity on the living. These rites began in ancient times, but the incorporation of a likeness of the deceased dates from perhaps the Tang dynasty (618-907). The commissioning of nearly lifesized portraits of the type on view in this exhibition flourished during the Qing dynasty.

Much like Western sumptuary laws, the intricate rules of ancestor worship were strictly enforced. Those of highest rank were the first to be permitted to engage in this ritual, and it was not until the eighteenth century that commoners were allowed to participate. While the severely frontal, full-length ancestor portraits might at first seem formulaic, the depiction of the sitter's face is most individualistic. Since many of the portraits were commissioned after the sitter's death, they are most likely not accurate portrayals. By the late Ming dynasty separate portraits of husbands and wives were sometimes merged into one painting. In what is surely an ironic twist, these portraits, which were incorporated into the most private of rituals, are now permanently in the West and on exhibition for all to see.

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COPYRIGHT 2001 Gale Group

 

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23楼  发表于: 2007-03-06   

这个是什么时候画的?苏麻姑姑还挺年轻的。

不过这身行头……到底算什么品阶啊?晕…难道女官的朝服也那么缤纷?!

还以为是后宫……

 

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24楼  发表于: 2007-03-09   
感觉那时候这种脸型和眉眼的人好多,看起来很犀利的感觉。

 

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25楼  发表于: 2007-03-10   

大大啊……那个1644-1911????有没有弄错啊?这样的话活到哪个年头拉?

还是你打错了?



 

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26楼  发表于: 2007-03-10   
是这样的,祭祀像不一定就是死者生前画的,可能是后人画的,所以史密斯基金会标注的时间往往就是把整个清朝的时间段都算进去,此图画成的时间,最早在1644清朝建立,最晚在1911,清朝覆灭.

 

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受教了~

 

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28楼  发表于: 2007-03-12   

苏麻啊~~~~

与我想像的大相径庭啊~~~

 

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29楼  发表于: 2007-03-12   
我已经给大家编辑过好几次帖子了,为啥大家都按照康熙王朝那样,喊她苏麻呢,苏麻喇是一个词。

 

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